At least one is for a Wikipedia mirror: ‘High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles! A plague doctor contract was an agreement’. ‘Parker's 45-minute solo performance at the Finger Palace in California in 1978, released on a label with a name as bizarre as that of the venue: The Beak Doctor’ – relate to a jazz-orientated record label. A search for "Beak Doctor" -Basso gets 38 hits for me. A search for the quoted phrase "Beak Doctor" gets far fewer, many of which relate to Eric Basso's novella, The Beak Doctor, which ‘has sustained a cult reputation among a hard core of avant-garde writers’ according to the first hit. Celuici ( talk) 23:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)Ĭomment A Google Books search for Beak Doctor, as suggested above, gets a lot of hits for books which include both words, which is hardly surprising. Since several sketches of the "Beak Doctor" are showing up in this time period, I don't believe you could consider this original research as it is NOT new knowledge generated, but existing knowledge that exists from several different reliable sources of that time period.- Doug Coldwell talk 22:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC) The caption to that picture is clearly taken from a later publication, not a contemporary one, and thus does not provide evidence for the use of the phrase 'beak doctor' in the seventeenth century (or earlier). (And it would be original research if it were.) Celuici ( talk) 19:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC) Here is a 1661 sketch of The Beak Doctor in "Historiae anatomicae" by Thomas Barolin. It is NOT a term I dreamed up, but one that has been in existence for some 400 years.- Doug Coldwell talk 18:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC) The existence of a print entitled 'Doktor Schnabel von Rom' is not evidence of the historical usage of the terms 'beak doctor' or 'beak doctor costume'. Parrot of Doom 16:45, 18 June 2011 (UTC) The idea of "Beak Doctor" originated in the 17th century, some 400 years ago as can be seen in this very famous engraving by Paul Fürst (after J Columbina). A Beak doctor implies that the person treats beaks. Celuici ( talk) 15:30, 18 June 2011 (UTC) I agree that Plague doctor costume would be more appropriate. There are, however, lots of reliable sources which use the phrase 'plague doctor'. Many of the search results which you refer to do not use the phrase 'beak doctor', but merely contain the words 'beak' and 'doctor' on the same page. It's not in the OED, whereas 'plague doctor' is (section C1a of the Plague entry). I've tried searching on Google Books and JSTOR, and have not found any reliable sources using the phrase 'Beak doctor'. I prefer to stick with the name "Beak doctor" as this best describes the subject involved.- Doug Coldwell talk 12:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC) As a little tid-bit, apparently the public recognizes this term of "Beak doctor" best as the DYK had almost 18,000 hits when it came out.- Doug Coldwell talk 12:11, 18 June 2011 (UTC) Google search results are not a reliable source. Under images it shows some 195,000 pictures. Under Google Books it comes up with some 19,000 hits. Some of those have got to be good reliable sources. Celuici ( talk) 15:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC) I typed in "Beak doctor" into Google and it came up some 2 million hits. I can't find any reliable sources which use the term 'Beak doctor'. This article should be moved to Plague doctor costume. Beak Doctor from Rome, 1656 The Beak Doctor from the Historiae anatomicae by Thomas Bartolin "Hafniae 1661"
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